Tuesday, January 8, 2013

WHO HURTS WORSE? Two perspectives of 'Hell'

Part I -  His Story......


Well, maybe the use of the word "Hell" is sort of exaggerating, because there was no fire & brimstone, and we did still have alot of  GREAT TIMES, and enjoyed many, many BLESSINGS,... but we can't think of any better word to describe the dysfunction that seemed to almost consume several years of our marriage, and, one thing we both know for sure...  it seemed that often, SATAN WAS THERE.

(Mr. I Define Me here - MY thoughts as told to my wife, the typist)

From the time I discovered that I was "different" (homosexual - but I didn't even know the word back then), I felt completely alone.   I can't even begin to explain what my life was like as a young boy in a small farming town.  At around 10 years of age my wonderful carefree life and innocence was shattered, and gone forevermore, as I was introduced to pornography, and discovered that unlike all the other guys, who were clearly looking at the girls in the pictures, I was looking at the guys.  I didn't know anything about homosexuality (or heterosexuality), I just knew that I was different, I didn't understand why, and I felt worried and alone.   I don't know which was worse, the confusion, the guilt,  or the fears that I lived with in my soul, with no one talk to, and no knowledge of anyone anywhere "like me".  I felt like a "freak" and I was terrified that someone might discover the horrible truth about me. 

In my earlier childhood years, my sexual orientation was  usually just a "minor" peculiar part of me, but as time went on, it became almost all consuming.  If I wasn't acting on my sexual desires, I was thinking about them, and if I was not acting on or thinking about "sex", I was worrying about people finding out I was "a freak".  Or, I was wondering why I was different from all my friends, or hoping and praying that I would somehow be "fixed" and that this devastating "phase" of my life would eventually pass, and hopefully SOON.

I remember a time when I was a young boy, some big boys showed me two different "dirty" magazines, one with pictures of women, and the other with pictures of men.  They placed both in front of me and asked me which book I wanted to look at.  Well, even at that early age, not knowing anything whatsoever about homosexuality (or heterosexuality, for that matter), I still could smell a rat....and I instinctively knew that, although I really wanted to look at the magazine with the naked men, I should definitely pick the magazine with the naked women.  It just seemed like the "proper" thing to do, -  I just knew I should hide my sexual inclinations.

Throughout my adolescent years, I remember so much shame, confusion, and conflict raging inside me, while, at the same time, I was actually a peaceful, sensitive, and caring kid.

As I look back now, I can see clearly that I was a very sensitive child, very much different than my brothers.  My brothers seemed to be able to roll with the punches and 'cowboy up', while I was less tough, less athletic, less adventurous, and more fearful and guarded.

I remember one early morning out in the field, we were sleeping in sleeping bags in the back of the truck, and at the crack of dawn our dad, who was bailing hay in the field, called to us to "GET UP AND ROLL THESE BAILS!,  we all continued to sleep until we heard the tractor engine slow to an idle, and I raised up to discover our dad running towards us and yelling (we were in trouble!), my brothers jumped up and scattered, and successfully managed to 'get out of his reach' to avoid gettin a lickin, but I was frozen to that spot, and wet my pants from the fear.  Although I knew my Dad loved me, I must confess that I was afraid of him, and it seemed to be worse for me than for my brothers.  Bonding with my Dad was difficult, I'm not sure that I ever did - although I have gone to great lengths to build a really good relationship with him through the years, and I love spending time with him whenever I can.

I don't think I ever really bonded with my only living grandfather.  I do remember that, one day when he took us all to buy cowboy hats, he allowed me to get the hat I really wanted, which was actually what my brothers called, 'a sissy hat', because it was kindof a Roy Rogers hat, painted blue with pictures of cowboys and indians on it.  My brothers choose the 'real' cowboy hats, and although I was not the youngest, I was more attracted to the fancy 'toy' hat than the real hats.  And, although I really liked that hat, I quit wearing it because I would get mercilessly teased by my brothers.   I could tell countless stories similar to this from my uneasy, uncomfortable childhood.

I remember when all the kids would gather in the yard for a game of tackle football, I hated it.  I was alot smaller than most boys my age, as a matter of fact, I didn't reach puberty until I was at least 16.  I was afraid of getting tackled, and I didn't seem to have that competitive spirit that most the boys had.  By the time I was in high school I somehow managed to get on the football team, although I didn't like it, and just did it because all my brothers were football stars.  I especially hated the 'shower room' situation as we had one big open area with lots of shower heads and there was no place to hide the fact that I had not reached puberty.  Even one of my younger brothers reached puberty years before me - it was extremely humiliating.
And, as if that wasn't enough, the older guys always teased me, and even some of the teachers made insulting comments about my lack of maturity and my small stature.  These developmental issues caused me great anguish and added to my low self esteem and self hatred.  And, although, at times I reached out to God for help through prayer, it seemed that my prayers went unanswered as I waited and waited for results and for rescue.  (IMPORTANT NOTICE - somewhere along the way, during my mission, and also in my early years of marriage - I GREW UP.... now, I am bigger than all my brothers, and am usually unrecognizable at my class reunions. - whew~~~)

I was a spiritual kid right from the start, with a firm belief in God and a knowledge that God was good, that he loved me, and that He had the power to help and comfort me in times of need.  (I personally believe that I was born with "the Light of Christ" and I firmly believe that everyone is.)  I also instinctively knew that my thoughts and actions were not pleasing to God, I felt guilt from viewing naked pictures, guilt from masturbation, and shame because of my same sex attraction.  At the same time, I felt determined to please God, and to please my Dad, and I wanted nothing more than to be "normal".   It was a very confusing and lonely existence. 

One day, when I was a teenager, the pain, frustration, and heartache had built up to a boiling point within me, I had had a terrible day, my burdens seemed to be way more than I could bare, and as I walked into our home, my parents were sitting there watching tv.   As I sat down in the chair, almost without warning, I broke down and began to cry.  My parents asked me, "what is wrong?" and I was overcome with emotion, I couldn't say a word, I just shrugged my shoulders and went to my room.  I desperately  needed someone, someone to talk to, someone to help me understand, someone to listen. I knew my parents loved me, but I just couldn't even consider telling them the truth.  It seemed like an impossible thing for them to comprehend.
So,  my mother came to my room and sat on my bed where I was crying like a baby.  She gently and nervously asked me the question, "son, have you got some girl pregnant"?   I practically laughed inside as I secretly thought, "oh how I wished that were true".  If only that was the reason for my anguish and tears, and  I wished that that was ALL that was 'wrong' with me.   I quietly told my mother "no", but couldn't answer her questions as she pressed me to confide in her, because I just couldn't do it, I couldn't tell her the truth, I believed it would break her heart.
After high school I joined the military.  Joining the military was a pretty crazy thing for a "gay guy" to do, I know.  Truthfully, I don't really know why I did it or what I was thinking.  I mainly joined because alot of my friends were joining, and because I did think it would be a great adventure (which is weird because I was not really the adventurous type).  I definitely had a sense of patriotism, and although in the beginning I wondered "what have I done?", and felt I had made a terrible mistake,  ultimately I did feel a sense of pride and accomplishment in serving my country, which I love.  I always believed that my military service was a form of serving God.

My mission was hard.  Although I had never acted on my SSA with another person,  and I constantly worked hard at remaining worthy to serve in the mission field, I was always on high alert, keeping my thoughts and actions in check, and struggling to stay focused on the work I was there to do.  I'm sure all missionaries have struggles and most missions, although they truly ARE "the best two years of your life", are difficult for each and every individual.  I, however, thought that everything in MY life, and everything about me was WORSE than anybody else.  By the time I was  in my early 20's, I often felt that my hardships, trials, and anguish were some sort of  punishment from God for my years of masturbation in my youth, and even for my obsessive homosexual thoughts.  Still, I only desired to please God, to serve Him, and I believed  He alone had the power to rescue me from my hell.

When I married my wife, within just a few months from returning from my mission, it became quite clear to me that I was wrong in thinking/hoping that I could 'marry the gay away'.  Although I truly did enjoy sex with my wife, and, as a matter of fact, it was actually a very great and wonderful thing, the attractions to men were not minimized, and I continued to be compelled to masturbation to homosexual fantasies.  I truly loved my wife, and I hated to hurt her, and so I tried constantly, with all my might, to control my sexual attractions and sex drive involving fantasies of men.  Even though she did not know about my secret, I knew that she was ultimately adversely affected by my choices, actions, thoughts, and lack of attention to her.    I almost always felt 'out of control' and on the edge of some impending doom.  And, I knew that if/when my world fell apart, it would absolutely be 'all my fault'. 

Because of my conflict within, and my 'secret', I lived with depression constantly.  I sorta believed that my whole life was cursed, that everything I did was bad, and I was basically unable to see and accept all the many blessings in my life.  I truly knew I was blessed, and I always acknowledged God for His hand in my life and the blessings of my life, (WHEN I had a moment of humble reflection), but, I usually had a dark fog separating my heart and soul from really feeling the blessings that my mind intellectually knew were real.  Back then, I would discount everything 'good' and become consumed with everything 'bad'.  It was like I had the opposite of 'the Midas touch', it seemed that everything I touched turned to 'crap' (instead of Gold).

During the years after telling my wife the truth about my sexual attraction to men, and the whole truth about the secret life and lies I had been living, we had about a year of learning, understanding, growing, and much love.  It was a year of great relief, discovery, counseling, healing and empowerment for me.  I was actively working on my issues, my marriage, and my relationship with God.  I had great hope....... but somehow, and for some reasons that I really can't even explain, that hope faded.  I became even more discouraged than ever before.  I just couldn't see how I could ever take control of my life.  I was overwhelmed.  I felt desperate as the 'help' that I had put all my faith in, was just not working, and I was even unable to find that faith in God (within myself) that I had somehow miraculously carried with me throughout my life (in spite of it all).  I had instincts that I should 'repent', but I couldn't separate the actions from the attractions, so I believed that there was no way I could repent from something I could not control, and it seemed to be a waste of time.  I started to believe that God had given up on me, and so I gave up on me too.

During the approximately 13 years that I continued on a roller coaster from hell, I experienced desperate and damning lows, then, I was somehow always carried away from sure destruction and 'up', up to renewed hope, once again, and through much determination to find rescue and peace, only to find myself once more consumed by my addictive attractions and selfish behaviors - so off to the "down-low" I'd go.

I have to be honest here, since this is the post about all the 'bad'.  I confess that I screamed and yelled at times.  I know that I was often irritable and would fly off the handle over stupid little things.  I sincerely regret that I called my wife names and swore at her, using words that certainly cut her to her core and damaged her heart and her soul.   I make no excuses for all my bad behavior, back then, it was sometimes easier to do things to push her away, than to face the reality of the pain she was in, (that I knew I caused), or to attempt to communicate, understand, or care.   At times it was all I could do to make it to work and then home, and, I often delayed coming home.    The family I so desperately wanted and had dreamed of was becoming a added burden to my out of control life, and I found myself  avoiding those relationships that I cherished the most.  It just doesn't compute, I know, and I can never get those years back.

The most devastating reality of my life's choices, is how it surely has affected my children.  Although, at the time, I was fooling myself into thinking that I was only hurting myself (and my wife), I somehow believed that the kids were not adversely affected.  I went to such great effort to be sure that my children were well provided for, and I tried extremely hard to be a 'good Dad'.  I loved (and still love) my children more than words can say.  Ironic those very children that I wanted so desperately to have and raise and love, who I would absolutely 'die' for, ...I was not able to 'live' for.  But back then, I didn't see it that way.  I was selfish, and my thoughts were twisted.  I thought that, at least, I was doing good because I was somehow keeping the family together, and avoiding the devastation of divorce. 

I was always attempting to teach my children the gospel and attending church meetings to be an example to my kids.  I often felt so uncomfortable in church, and, although it was torture, at times, because of my guilt, I still endured and hoped that my children would see me as a good man and know of my belief in the gospel and my love for the Lord, Jesus Christ.  I knew that my wife was an example for good in their lives, and since we were somehow, seemingly managing (on the surface) quite well, I was grateful for this part of our life everyday.  And, I constantly hoped and prayed that we could continue to hold it together, somehow.  My 'family', especially my children, were the light of my life, and often the ONLY thing that kept me alive.

I don't really know, even to this day, the extent of the emotional damage that may have been caused to my kids, and the trials they have faced, or may face, because of the dysfunction in our home.  But, I hope and pray every day, that I can somehow find a way to make it up to them, to help them muddle through, and to be a much better example to them now than I was then.  I hope that they feel of my spirit and know of my genuine love for them, and also for their mother, and especially for God.  My wife and I pray everyday that our kids will, "Rise Above Their Raisin".  So far, they are all doing extremely well.  (I'm really tempted to go on and on and brag all about them here - but I'll save it for a different, more appropriate place in the future of this blog)

I fought within myself, to just drive straight home, and steer clear of those places that called to me, as I would rationalize things out in my mind.   When I could find the strength and clarity in my mind to keep myself away from the those 'meeting places', I would masturbate instead, as I saw it as the lesser of two evils, and it was far less destructive to my soul.  Although I always felt guilt from masturbating, and knew that it was wrong is many ways (ie: - not pleasing to God, taking my attentions away from my wife, and a completely selfish act that involved only myself and eliminated any and all interaction with another human being) I still found that the guilt and pain after masturbation was minimal compared to the massive amount of guilt, shame, and self-hatred that I always experienced after an incident with some anonymous man.  The guilt and heartache would hold me at bay for months at a time, and each time I would almost believe that I would never go back.  I'm sure it seems ridiculous that I would ever go back, after such pain and suffering to my soul, but I did....again....and again....and again.

The most devastating and unbelievable thing about all of this is, the extreme danger of contracting AIDS or some other sexually transmitted disease, and especially the unforgivable risk I was taking with the lives of my wife and children as well.  Even still, with my constant knowledge of, worry, and remorse regarding the risks, I continued to give in to my urges and my destructive behavior did not cease.  It is, and always will be, almost unbearable to think of it still to this day.  I can't begin to explain how blessed (and lucky - for lack of a better word) I feel to have somehow dodged a bullet that I continued to put at my head (not to mention my family's as well).

I remember through those 'worst' years, as my behavior became more and more self destructive, I still and always had much love for my wife.  I don't really know how I could continue to hurt her like I did, I will be forever remorseful, broken hearted, and ashamed for the immense pain and suffering I burdened her with.  I continue to humble myself and ask God to help me as I attempt to prove my true love to her and possibly help in some way to mend her broken heart.    As cruel as this sounds, I always knew that she needed me, and I did want to be her lover, and her friend, and her soft place to fall, but I just didn't have anything to offer since I was so empty myself.  My unmet needs left me with nothing to offer the one I loved most, and, since I didn't understand myself or my life's problems, I lacked understanding and compassion for her and hers.  Whatever understanding I did have for my wife's pain & suffering was usually overshadowed by the knowledge that 'I' was the cause of it all, and that just made me double depressed, and pity myself even more.  It was a endless, hopeless, and self destructive cycle.  It was like I was living in a whirlwind.

Thankfully, eventually things began to change.....

"Sometimes God calms the storm, and Sometimes God let's the storm rage, and He calms His child"
        (this is what happened to me, and it is the rest of the story soon to come)

25 comments:

  1. (Mrs. IDefineMe here)

    I just want to say how amazingly brave it was for my husband to share these deep dark parts of his life. Although I already knew most of this, I was overcome with emotion as he told me these things. I asked him over several times if he was sure he wanted to put all this out there, and he was firm in his conviction that "it needs to be told".

    I just want our readers to know that it was not easy for him. It has been an emotional several days as we have worked on this post, and once we clicked "publish" he immediately pulled it up on his ipad and read through it again, straight from the blog (imagining how is was being read by everyone else).

    After he finished reading, he expressed his continued conviction that it was/is the 'right' thing to do (for us - and hopefully for others as well). But, he was so overcome with emotion that he wept for hours. We prayed together, and I know he prayed alone throughout the night too. It was a very hard thing for him to do (sharing such intimate information about himself), and especially hard to face the reality of it all. I know he was reliving some of the pain, and his heart broke once again as he was reminded of the pain his actions had caused, and the risks that he took. And, especially as he thinks of, still to this day, the future troubles, heartaches, and struggles that will inevitably come, and, as we eventually tell our other 2 children these truths, and hopefully help them work through the feelings and emotions that they'll have.

    I offered several times to take this post down, but he insisted that it needed to remain. So, together we had a very tearful and emotional night. But, we held each other and grew even closer because of it.

    We talked about the miracle of our lives now, and how completely amazing it is that we have somehow walked through fire and lived to tell about it on this blog. We are not perfect still, and our lives and relationships and marriage continues to be a 'work in procress', but writing about it is truly therapeutic as we thoughtfully share our lives with all of you.

    thank you faithful readers.... we feel your support, and, although we are strangers, we feel of your spirits, (even those who never comment but read), and our love for you is surely real.

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  2. Thank you for sharing those raw thoughts and feelings and journey. As difficult as it is I think these difficult posts that we write will help many both trying to choose their paths, those that have been down these paths, those trying to understand others and those that are helping those that have these paths to choose.
    Thanks you,
    Azalea

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  3. Thank you so much for being so courageous to share these hard things. I believe that hearing other people's stories increases compassion and charity as we realize that we are all on a journey and that we all experience hard things. It is easier to forgive and to love those who hurt me when I realize that they are probably going through heartache and pain I have no idea about. There is so much we don't know about what others are going through, and our job (what I am trying to learn to do better) is to simply love as the Savior loves. Thank you for helping me and all of us to do this.

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  4. Wow! ... Yes that is definitely tear jerking, but thank you for posting this. What you may never know are the thoughts of most of the people reading this blog. Those that might be impacted the most may never comment at all.

    Posts like this one, as well as the previous post from Mrs. IDM, will probably not get lots of comment type responses. They simply are not that controversial, at least in my opinion. Please don't take a lack of comments as being a lack of interest or value.

    But thank you very much for sharing your lives and your experiences here. I wish that I knew you in person.

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  5. Straight people need to live their truth. Gay people need to live their truth. When you don't, all kinds of pain happens and then you have a mess. Heartbreaking.

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    1. Too bad ... It looks like the troll is back.

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    2. I know straight couples who have had more heartbreak and caused more mess then you could imagine, especially compared to this. Lets not try to blanket, box, or stereotype.

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    3. As long as everyone is living their truth, AS THEY DEFINE IT, we should refrain from judgement.

      But, life is a painful mess for a lot of people during different periods in their life. To pretend that any one specific choice will save anyone from pain and mess and heartbreak, is wrong and misleading.

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    4. Laurie, your post bothered me more than Anons did. First, we don't know if that is the same poster and by making that assumption you're not giving that person a chance and you are closed off to their message. When I read it I did not read anything negative in it. It is simply stating that whether you are gay or straight you need to live your truth. Anon was not defining what that truth is but you made an assumption that they did.

      If the desire truly is to have an open dialogue, perhaps it would be advisable to ask for clarification before jumping to conclusions. All opinions, not just those that are in agreement, should be respected. Everyone has a different story. Lets be open to that.

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  6. Tammy, I'm sorry that my post bothered you. So Anon, please clarify what you mean by the phrase "Gay people need to live their truth."

    It sounds to me like Mr. IDM is 'living his truth', gratefully by not allowing anyone else tell him what 'truth' he must live, just because he is attracted to men.

    'Who he is attracted to' is not his choice to make, however 'how he lives his life' is absolutely his choice. He's clearly made that choice and seems to be extremely happy.

    If Anon is truly insinuating that Mr. IDM needs to live 'another truth' because he is gay, than the life he has chosen, I'll stick with my original assessment. If Anon was insinuating something else, non-judgemental of Mr. IDM's choices, then I apologize for the assumption.

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    1. Since this post was about his time in hell, and not his current life, I took it that Anon was talking about then, not now. Of course my assumptions could be just as wrong, pollyanna and all!

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    2. I realize that Anon is presumably talking about 'then'. I don't see that whether referencing 'then' or 'now' he shouldn't have the right to define himself.

      In reading this blog it appears obvious to me that he never wanted to be gay in the first place. It also seems obvious that if he wanted to walk out on his family, and his ideal life, he had plenty of opportunities. For her part Mrs. IDM was willing to give him the freedom to define himself, even if that meant leaving her for a man of his choosing. She chose to stay in their marriage and so did he. After a great deal of learning and growing together they have now finally arrived at a beautiful place. I say, "Hurray for them!"

      So why then are they willing to lay all of this painful history out on their blog, instead of just the 'hearts and flowers' parts? I get the feeling that maybe they are trying to be a resource for other individuals, and families, going through similar challenges. Maybe they are outlining the ugly times so that they can also offer up the lessons that they learned, like completely eliminating his masturbating to homosexual fantasies for example, so that others can learn from their mistakes and maybe not have to repeat them all. Wise people learn from others' choices, be those choices positive or negative.

      Whether we like it or not, pain and heartache are part of life. Working through and overcoming challenges is part of what strengthens people. Expecting life to be perfect all the time, and being devastated when it is otherwise, is not healthy either. Personally I'm grateful that the IDM family is willing to tell their story. I look forwarding to hearing what more they have to say. Hopefully they will be able help many people who may be searching for options, outside of just living a lifestyle dictated to them. Maybe they will be able to help other people also 'define themselves'. And maybe by bringing up both the ugly and the pretty parts, people will be able to make better choices of their own.

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    3. While I mostly agree with you, I think it's important that we apply that belief of "freedom of defining who we are" to everyone, not just posters we identify with.

      If a poster has a different perspective on a blog entry (that comes from how they define themselves) then do they not have the same right to share that insight? They have defined what they think is right and is sharing. IDMs have defined what they think is right and are sharing. If you are to give respect for one, give respect for all. They may be contradictory positions but no less valid.

      Everyone can look for a reason to be offended if they try hard enough.

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  7. Actually, Mr and I both felt, immediately as we read it, that Anon's comment was insinuating that the pain and heartbreak which the post was about was all because Mr. IDM was not living 'what anon believes his truth should be - to embrace a gay lifestyle, and have homosexual relationships'. We are, however a bit gun-shy from past comments by an anonymous commenter who was very insistent that embracing a 'gay' lifestyle was the one and only option for every and all gay individuals. Certainly, upon further reflection, we can see that it is possible that this anonymous commenter was indeed pointing out the fact that when Mr. IDM was not living his truth (with is, by his definition, NOT embracing a 'gay' lifestyle), that is when and why the 'hell' of pain and heartbreak ensued. And, that is exactly the point that Mr. IDM hoped establish, that, when he was not living HIS truth (as defined by him), and was allowing himself to be driven by what he feel we're unhealthy and none fulfilling physical/sexual urges, it was THEN that the pain and heartbreak was experienced, and, yes - it was a mess. However, it was only after he began living HIS truth, as he defines it, that the hell, the pain, the heartache,and the mess was no more.

    So, having explained this to anon, we are actually curious and interested to know exactly what anon meant by the comment. Just to be clear. Thanks to you all. We totally love you are, and so appreciate your insights and thoughtful comments and we do feel the love and support from those are understanding and compassionate to our lives. :)

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  8. I've just finished reading all your blog up to this point. Found it from unknown's blog.

    Thank you for this blog. I am in my 30's, am attracted to my gender, and am a mormon. It's so nice to see how authentic you are, and to see your lives, that a marriage can be an option for me. And while i would tell my wife before marriage, i can see how that would have been hard in my twenties to do.

    Thanks for sharing your deep darks, and your bright highs. And adding to the voices that show, you can make it.

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  9. j4k - thank you for your kind comments. We have also discovered your blog and have been reading some of your writings as well. It is such a wonderful world (this blogging community) where we are continuously finding new people who we can relate to and who clearly understand us and our beliefs as well. We have been traveling for a few days and so have been doing a lot of clicking around, reading blogs & comments, and discovering the amazing support system that is evolving on the Internet and also in the form of meetings, workshops, etc. just tonight we have been listening to an awesome podcast through North Star called Voices (which you might already be aware of) which was so inspirational and exciting and uplifting to us. We listened to Ty Mansfield interview Laurie Campbell, the author of "Born That Way...." and it was wonderful. She is very cool and we loved hearing her tell her story and learning about her healIng and testimony, etc. we are just so anxious to get on the road tomorrow and read more, and listen to more podcasts, and work some more on our blog as well, Hopefully we can just get more and more involved in all the great work towards understanding, acceptance, and love. :)

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  10. Thank you Mr. IDM (and Mrs. IDM!). The only instruction manual I have to go off of is experiences like yours. Were it not for your openness and the openness of others that have been there, I believe I may have reached a point where I would have tried to discover for myself if I could find relief in "living true to myself", as Anon. described it. But I don't need to do so, because I have been able to go into this with the testimony of others that what I am looking for can only be found right where I am. That I AM living my truth. That my desires and attractions, while overwhelming at times, are only a part of who I am, and I am much more than them. Each step in my journey has, rather than encouraging me to live the lifestyle, confirmed to me that I am where I want to be. As gratifying and tantalizing as may seem to find "true love" in the arms of a man, what really fulfills me is to be the man that holds his sweetheart and his children in his arms. I have chosen my lifestyle and I have never regretted it.

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    1. Will - you will you explain your quotes around true love?

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    2. Will, (Mr. IDM here) I have just today been reading a talk by Elder Holland, "Cast not away therefor your confidence" ensign march 2000. He quotes President Hinckley, "we cannot sign on for a battle of such eternal significance and everlasting consequence without knowing it will be a fight - a good fight and a winning fight, but a fight nevertheless". So, Will, it will be a fight, a GOOD fight, but fight you must, for the reward will be worth it. I testify that IT IS. I love this quote, "I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be with it".

      My wife and I read the Book of Mormon everyday, and it IS a manual that confirms to us continuously that we are on the right path. God Bless you and your wife in the fight to remain steadfast and prayerful. Christ 'Will' help you fight your battles. We sure do appreciate your kind comments and support. Love the IDMs

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    3. :( (error correction). "Worth" it - not "with" it...

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    4. Thank you for asking, Tammy. (Azalea wants to know, too.) I can see my post does bear some more explanation. I feel that I have been cursed/blessed with the ability to see things in a unique way (thinking outside of the box has never been a problem for me) but without the ability to clearly convey my thoughts. It is as if there exists a disconnect between my mental and physical. I believe it is because I think in emotions and pictures and have to rely on an internal translator in my brain that can't quite keep up. It is not uncommon for me to think I have explained something clearly only to be surprised at the confused expressions on the faces of those I'm talking to.

      This is going to take some effort and some introspection. I'll be back...

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  11. (Mrs. IDM here). I woke up this morning with a great need to thank you all for your interest in our story and for the support and even love we feel from you through this wonderful medium, blogging. There truly is great power on the written word.

    I just wanted to specifically thank Azalea, Rebeka, and Laurie who were kinda the 'first responders' to this very difficult and serious post. Although we know that it is not necessary to get comments to know that we do have an audience, because of the nature of this post, and especially because of the affect it had on us, (especially Mr. iDM), we were actually waiting with great anticipation and great nerves for a response, some sort of acknowledgement the we had done the right thing in sharing so much. Well, for a few hours, all we heard were those pesky 'crickets', and I confess, it seemed like an eternity until you first responders expressed your love and support, whew ! lol.

    Anyway, just wanted to say how thankful I am, personally, for all of you (the latest responders too) , because this was so difficult and heart breaking for my husband, and because of his firm conviction that it still needed to be said, I really wanted desperately for him to, receive some strong positive and powerful feedback, and he truly has. Thank you again - and much love to you all.

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  12. I would like to clarify a few things for the people reading this that are not very well versed in all things gay.

    Mr IDMs story does NOT reflect the gay lifestyle anymore than a man telling his story about his addiction to prostitutes reflect the straight lifestyle. He did not act out on these urges BECAUSE he is gay, or he'd still be doing it. HIs actions are more in line of obsession and addiction, not sexual attraction. The ACT of his acting out was manifested in a gay action but being gay was not the cause. There are plenty of gay people and couples who are normal and loving people who do not have these same urges that are so strong they put the people they love in danger. This is a behavior issue, not a sexual orientation issue.

    He said in his previous post that he feels being gay was toxic (or something along those lines.) I'd like to share my opinion of that from my viewpoint, it isn't being gay that's toxic (or he'd still be toxic) but rather the UNHEALTHY acting out on on his gay fantasies. This would have been a toxic situation if he was acting out with other women or if he was in a relationship with a man and acting out with other men or women.

    There is nothing toxic or sick about being gay. There is nothing toxic or sick about building an amazing live with someone you love REGARDLESS of gender.

    So, for those of you who identify as gay but want to be straight, I truly do wish for you to find a peaceful happiness.
    For those of you who identify as gay and cannot see yourself living straight, I truly do wish for you to find a peaceful happiness.

    In the end, it all comes down to communication, compassion, love, understanding, respect, and putting aside our selfishness for the love of others. THAT is what the IDMs have found. It's not an absence of gayness but rather the stronger integration of the above qualities that changed their lives.

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    1. Great post Tammy! I totally agree.

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    2. Amen, Tammy. I find this "gay lifestyle" rhetoric sickening. That's all.

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